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November 21, 2009 5:37 PM

Reid Gets 60 Votes for Health Care Debate

(CBS)
This post was written by CBS News Producer John Nolen.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada secured the 60 votes needed to move forward with the historic debate on President Obama’s overhaul of health care today. The future of the debate was in question until two remaining Democratic holdouts announced they would vote with their party to begin deliberations on the health care reform bill.

Reid needed the support of all 58 Democrats and two Independents to formally begin debate on the health care legislation. Republicans were unified in opposition to the bill, calling it too costly.

“Americans know that a vote to proceed on this bill is a vote for higher premiums, higher taxes, and massive cuts to Medicare," said Republican Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky. "That’s a pretty hard thing to justify supporting.”

During a rare Saturday session of the Senate, the last two wavering Democrats, Sen. Mary Landrieu of Louisiana and Sen. Blanche Lincoln of Arkansas announced they would vote yes to move forward on the bill.

Landrieu said on the Senate floor that “doing nothing is not an option.” But she cautioned her colleagues that voting to begin debate does not mean she would support them in a final vote.

“My vote today to move forward on this important debate should in no way be construed by the supporters of this current framework as an indication of how I might vote as this debate comes to an end,” Landrieu said.

Later in the day, during a much anticipated Senate floor speech, Lincoln warned Reid that she would oppose any plan that contained the so-called “public option.”

“Let me be perfectly clear, I am opposed to a new government-administered health care plan as part of comprehensive health care reform,” she said.

Lincoln is not the only Democrat who has expressed concerns about a public option in the health care reform bill, setting up a tough battle in weeks to come.

After Saturday evening’s procedural vote, Senators head home for a week-long Thanksgiving recess before returning to Washington to engage in a full-blown, contentious debate on health care. Senate leaders still hope to pass a bill by the end of the year.

But with only a few weeks remaining before Christmas, that’s going to be tough.
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by hungry1968-17 November 22, 2009 7:18 AM EST
by TickedOff2 November 21, 2009 8:49 PM EST
You got to be kidding..is this a joke? How is a simple man going to catch a break with 237 millionaires in congress? What makes you think they speak for us or even know what the typical American family is going through? The majority of America opposes Obama's health care plan! Who thought it WOULDN'T pass congress? Please!







The "majority" opposes health care reform?

Since when is 25% considered to be the "majority"?
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by pasha4096 November 21, 2009 9:10 PM EST
Somedays it's interesting to watch the uneducated congratulate themselves on their repeated displays of their own ignorance, pathetic and interesting at the same time.
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by TickedOff2 November 21, 2009 8:49 PM EST
You got to be kidding..is this a joke? How is a simple man going to catch a break with 237 millionaires in congress? What makes you think they speak for us or even know what the typical American family is going through? The majority of America opposes Obama's health care plan! Who thought it WOULDN'T pass congress? Please!
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by PATANNC November 21, 2009 8:49 PM EST
I don't think THIS debate should continue based on what the most reliable economists have stated regarding the damage done by 2 1/2 trillion dollars spent that the gov't does not have.

A debate SHOULD occur. But the debate should be a new one, a bipartisan one. Only when the representatives of ALL taxpayers are involved in the debate is this going to be democracy. This is about ALL the people.

All Americans should be contacting their representatives -- easy to do by email -- and asking the hard questions. When the examples used of health issues experienced are HAND-PICKED in order to support a point, the results are skewed, not legitimate.

It's still about the money. This is not the time to spent it when we don't have it.
No one dies from not having health insurance or being under-insured. Emergency rooms, ambulance- service are always available. It is up to the individual to be responsible.

There are possible reforms -- one is tort reform.
Another is opportunity for increasing competition between insurance companies by allowing buying insurance across state lines.
OUR "leaders" are not answering these possibilities with valid or truthful responses.
This becomes very political. Trial lawyers win -- more than the "victims" with unreasonable lawsuits when tort reform is not addressed.
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by pasha4096 November 21, 2009 9:15 PM EST
How can you have a bi-partisan discussion with a party that has limited themselves to a one word vocabulary -- namely -- NO? Perhaps you approve of the proposal the REPUBLICANS submitted to spend more than the Democrats and insure LESS PEOPLE THAN ARE INSULTED NOW (not less than the Democrats propose to insure -- LESS THAN ARE INSURED TODAY) -- I wonder who the Republican plan that should be called THE DELIBERATE HEALTH CARE COST INFLATION PLAN targeted to LOSE THEIR INSURANCE?
by retm-w November 21, 2009 10:10 PM EST
Why bother, my representatives both Dems, just send a form letter back. They have their own agenda, that's why I have been voting for Independents.
by chi-11 November 21, 2009 8:47 PM EST
Way to go! Now bring on the debate and get to a winning vote ASAP!
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by tangojay November 21, 2009 7:48 PM EST
"Saving $127 billion in the first 10 years despite the startup costs including the insuring 95% percent of the country and saving $650 billion in the second 10 year period a 500%+ improvement -- sounds like a legacy that WILL BE remembered and celebrated by future generations."

I pray your being sarcastic and not serious! because you have forgotten the tax increases IN the bill, they are called "subsidies", also, 1000's of retired GI's will be loosing their health care or have to pay the first $6,500,,, 65% of americans DO have health care NOW! do the math,,,,,,
The legacy our childrne will remember is that we were morons who could not do the math and left them in ruins,,, wonder if I can take my vote back,because this administration is taking my hard earn money and giving it away,,,,,,,
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by pasha4096 November 21, 2009 8:27 PM EST
The reports I have read is that numerous GI's were returned to Health Care including the VA that were dropped during the Bush administration -- perhaps it is you that need to get updated information.
by PATANNC November 21, 2009 8:31 PM EST
Thank you to tangojay for an excellent response.
This is so wrong -- we don't have the money!
by slownewsday-05 November 21, 2009 6:31 PM EST
Great news.

Will this be perfect? Not a chance. But at least it's moving forward.
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by PATANNC November 21, 2009 8:36 PM EST
Not only is it not perfect, it puts us back not forward on doing real reform that will help Americans.
It's about the money. Doesn't anyone listen to the economists?
This is all about politics and winning. These people promoting this don't have a clue.
Do you really trust Harry Reid of all people to be looking out for your best interest??
I just hope more economists will be able to show the public again what this means for our future.
by payasyougo November 21, 2009 6:24 PM EST
Medicare/Medicaid refinancing. That is what this is about. Nothing more.

Oh, I almost forgot. "History calls". It's about a legacy. But the missed point is this legacy won't be remembered fondly.

Somewhere, sometime we'll get a government that works for the people.
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by pasha4096 November 21, 2009 7:04 PM EST
Saving $127 billion in the first 10 years despite the startup costs including the insuring 95% percent of the country and saving $650 billion in the second 10 year period a 500%+ improvement -- sounds like a legacy that WILL BE remembered and celebrated by future generations.
by retm-w November 21, 2009 7:35 PM EST
Medicare/Medicaid and not being reported Tri Care. Yes they are raising the rates on our military Tri care recipients, but not the FEHP.
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